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Post by Brian on Oct 22, 2015 12:27:15 GMT -4
I am not impressed with the removal of the combined total weight for the top 5 salmon and top 5 trout. Money is not the issue as for me, winning either one of those was a matter of pride. To me this does not make sense and will be considering not entering the derby this year.
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Post by Guest on Jul 15, 2016 15:41:19 GMT -4
Really? Come on Brian. Maybe the derby committee can track the aggregate top 5 salmon and trout and give you a pat on the back if you're the winner.
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Post by saugeendrifter on Jul 18, 2016 3:06:34 GMT -4
Can't make everyone happy Don't join, one less boat to compete against There is a critic in every crowd
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Post by saugeendrifter on Jul 18, 2016 3:13:39 GMT -4
Think of how all us Saugeen Shores fisherman felt when they opened up the East shore of the peninsula and all the big fish were coming in from over there and still do? Can't change it, just keep at it. I'd prefer they kept it on Huron only, not GB. GB always had larger fish. If the Chantry winner was 30 the Spectacular was 33. Always been the case, puts all of us locals at a disadvantage right off the bat unless we want to travel 40 minutes and fish their home waters to try to keep our chances of a larger fish higher....Flip side there is always one waterbody to fish no matter the wind....
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Post by Fish Fingers 10-4 on Jul 21, 2016 8:59:02 GMT -4
The decline in fish quantities in Huron has really hurt the derby entrants over the past 5 years, opening it to GB has kept the derby alive. Unfortunately it comes at a cost to the fishing community in the Kincardine area. What are the chances they will remove GB from the derby in the future, or is it here to stay?
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Post by Gary on Jul 21, 2016 19:08:31 GMT -4
A prize for the aggregate top 5 was just an invitation to cheat and I'm glad it's gone. The group of fishing buddies can all weigh in under one guys name and split the prize. I'm not saying it was successful, but it was, sure as hell, tried.....many times!
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Post by saugeendrifter on Jul 22, 2016 13:48:21 GMT -4
I'm sure many did use the aggregate weight combined buddy weight system to try to gain the upper hand, I also believe there are some good old fisherpeople out there that are genuince and truthful and it was all their own catch. Anyways I am glad its gone, Im off Port, aggregate weight prizes for me were non existant, we may hook into a good sized fish over the derby and place (not me personally but I've known a few locals); however; not enough to have all of them over 12lbs like Lions Head area nor the Kincardine Lake Trout aggregate abilities. From what I have been reading Huron will never be the hay day of the 80's again, we do not stock bait fish to maintain a large preditory salmon population and to hurt things more they are putting Lakers in instead. Lakers were here first, they are terrible tasting fish, they eat anything they can fit in their mouths (any juvenile fish of any species) and their numbers are booming, the biomass of gobies is anchored in their food web now and is a staple in their diets But lets face it, any salmon caught in Huron is on the BBQ, nothing gets let go.
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2016 17:51:23 GMT -4
I'm sure many did use the aggregate weight combined buddy weight system to try to gain the upper hand, I also believe there are some good old fisherpeople out there that are genuince and truthful and it was all their own catch. Anyways I am glad its gone, Im off Port, aggregate weight prizes for me were non existant, we may hook into a good sized fish over the derby and place (not me personally but I've known a few locals); however; not enough to have all of them over 12lbs like Lions Head area nor the Kincardine Lake Trout aggregate abilities. From what I have been reading Huron will never be the hay day of the 80's again, we do not stock bait fish to maintain a large preditory salmon population and to hurt things more they are putting Lakers in instead. Lakers were here first, they are terrible tasting fish, they eat anything they can fit in their mouths (any juvenile fish of any species) and their numbers are booming, the biomass of gobies is anchored in their food web now and is a staple in their diets But lets face it, any salmon caught in Huron is on the BBQ, nothing gets let go. But keep in mind that the salmon were initially put in the great lakes to reduce the alewive population. We can't really start stocking alewives now, can we LOL! Like you, I would like to believe that nobody used the "buddy system" for the aggregate weight prize, but unfortunately, I have talked to many people that have used it and are quite proud of the fact.
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Post by Lion's Header on Jul 24, 2016 16:25:04 GMT -4
I think that the inclusion of GB is great for this derby, and has helped make this an excellent derby. But if you don't want to include our waters that is fine, I'd be more than happy to fish our side just for fun and not have to wait in long lines at the boat launch every time a little west wind picks up on your side!
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Post by Bart on Aug 2, 2016 11:24:59 GMT -4
If someone were to catch the 3rd, 20th, and 21st place salmon, they will have one of their buddies weigh them in for them. If the top 5 aggregate salmon and trout were reinstated, then the person who caught the 3rd, 20th, and 21st place fish would weigh them in their own name. It does not matter to me but if I had a vote, I would reinstate the top 5 aggregate so that the above would not happen.
Just a thought - the way the fishing is going - very few salmon and lots of lake trout - should this derby turn into a trout/salmon derby. Prizes for the biggest fish - not the biggest salmon and biggest trout. I would sooner catch salmon but the numbers say otherwise. I know I have had days of throwing 10+ lake trout back. This is at least a good debate as some will hate the idea but some would be in favour of the idea. I would at least make the rod and reel the biggest fish of the day, not the biggest salmon of the day. As I said, just a thought.
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Post by saugeen drifter on Aug 2, 2016 22:05:00 GMT -4
Why make it a big fish contest, lakers win, Kincardine reigns
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Post by KincardineFisher on Aug 2, 2016 22:18:43 GMT -4
Monday, August 1st, fish were being divided between fishermen after coming in, right at the weigh station. Came in with a cooler, and a boat captain, and started grabbing fish from the cooler and deciding who would claim what fish. THEY EITHER DID NOT KNOW WHO CAUGHT WHAT OR THEY JUST DID NOT CARE. Reported the Chantry for fraud to the fraud hotline. I was told "They would not make the leaderboard anyway". What kind of answer is that in a cash fishing tournament. I was also told "How are you going to prove it?". With a polygraph, like you want us to be on. How do you tell who caught what on a Charter? With a fish chain/string in sequence or use coloured zip ties for each fisherman. Why should I have to report this anyway? The fish should have been disqualified immediately and NO MORE CHARTERS WITH DAY OF TICKETS. If I am going to be reamed out over the phone and called a liar just so they can protect a charter and the weigh station, you should just close it, as I told the fraud people and the police will be investigating. TO BAD SOME PEOPLE RUIN A GOOD TOURNAMENT JUST FOR THE ADDED DOLLARS!
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Post by Bart on Aug 3, 2016 8:45:17 GMT -4
I think all winners should have a polygraph - it would discourage cheating. I applaud the person a few years ago that caught a big fish and realized that not everyone in the boat had a ticket. The fish was disqualified but it is nice to see that there is honest fisherman. I suspect over the years, on the winning boat, not everyone had a ticket and at least one fish was caught in the fishing nets. These people know who they are.
I am pretty sure if a large fish was caught on the charter - the captain would make sure the person who caught the fish would be the same person who would weigh the fish in. It does not matter who weighs small fish in.
I think this should be a fish derby with an emphasis on salmon. All salmon weighed in would be weighed at 1.1. This means if a 20lb salmon was caught, it would be counted as 22lb's. This should encourage people to catch salmon and give the people fishing in the Kincardine area a chance of winning the derby.
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Post by Lion's Header on Aug 3, 2016 12:02:12 GMT -4
If you want things to be fair, guys fishing Huron should only be allowed 1 rod/person for the derby. This would keep things equal for the GB fisherman.
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Post by Bart on Aug 3, 2016 13:11:47 GMT -4
There is bigger fish in GB - the salmon spectacular always has bigger fish than the chantry. 1 rod for GB and 2 rods for Lake Huron is fine with me.
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